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DEBRIEF: Las Cruces, New Mexico

On Sunday, February 11/24 at approximately 1700 hrs, Las Cruces Police Department Officer Jonah Hernandez was brutally murdered in the line of duty. He was working alone and had responded to a trespass call at a place of business in Las Cruces, New Mexico. Once Hernandez arrived on scene, he observed and approached a lone male subject on foot. The male subject then suddenly attacked Officer Hernandez with a kitchen butcher knife and was stabbed multiple times. He was survived by his loving wife and two sons. The oldest boy is ten years old and the youngest is two.

A male civilian witnessed the attack and after retrieving the pistol he had secured in his vehicle, he approached the suspect and ultimately neutralized the threat he had encountered. The civilian then used Officer Hernandez's police radio to call for emergency medical response.

Our deepest sympathies go out to the Hernandez family, his wife, and most certainly his two sons who will never again hear his voice, feel his reassuring touch, or navigate life with his support, guidance, strength, and fatherly example.

Let's take a look at the circumstances we know and observe in the video record of the event.

It was a Sunday evening when Officer Hernandez got the call to respond to a simple trespass complaint. It appears to be a call similar to thousands of others that are typically straightforward, low-risk, and often are resolved after a brief conversation. During my law enforcement service, I had been on hundreds of calls that felt and appeared the same as this one started. I understand Officer Hernandez's relaxed approach, the informal terminology, and the calm friendly, and disarming voice.

Author Tim Larkin teaches in his book "When Violence Is The Answer" that there are two categories of violence. There is Social Aggression where the parties involved are very loud, demonstrative, and pursue adversarial social interaction with their adversary which translates into a lot of posturing, emotion, and loud threats. It's very much a performance for all to see that is driven by emotions.

The other category is A-Social Violence where the attacker desires no interaction and simply commits violence to remove whatever obstacle or threat is in their path.

In the majority of encounters, if we are going to experience resistance from a subject, it will typically be social aggression which almost always has the potential to be de-escalated since the aggressor wants the performance more than the fight. Officer Hernandez chose to approach in a non-threatening and less authoritative way using a friendly tone of voice and socially common terminology.

On rare occasions, we may encounter a subject that is not interested in a social demonstration, he or she only intends to eliminate their target whether it be a perceived threat or just an obstacle.

The attacker in this case did not engage in a verbal interaction, he simply waited for Officer Hernandez to approach and when he was close enough to strike effectively, the killer then drew his knife and surprised Officer Hernandez by attacking him with extreme violence and eliminating the threat by ultimately taking his life.

So what is the best strategy for approaching a subject?
One perspective is that Officer Hernandez was working alone so taking a more friendly approach was less likely to provoke a dangerous conflict as any backup could be minutes away at best.

Another perspective is that his approach may have conveyed a demeanor perceived as weakness which emboldened his attacker. The officer's hands tucked into his vest as he approached the subject showed a lack of preparedness that gave his attacker an edge. Finally, the officer got very close to the subject and was still moving forward when the attacker pulled the knife. When the attacker pulled the knife the officer had his hands in his vest and didn't have the time to pull his duty weapon to defend the deadly threat to his life. He ran, stumbled, was overtaken by his attacker, and murdered. The officer was unable to mount any observable measure of defense.

If we go back to the beginning we can identify a series of events that led to the outcome. There is no rush to approach this subject and we want to gather as much information about them as possible before we approach them. Whether it's from a person making a complaint, a dispatcher, or what you can observe from a distance. Are there other people or vehicles in the area? What can you observe about the subject from a distance such as their stance and body language, the expression on their face, what they are wearing or carrying or have nearby that could conceal a potential weapon? Where are his and your potential escape routes? What in the area can serve as cover?

How you look and carry yourself communicates your capability and preparedness and being squared away has proven to be an effective deterrent for someone looking for an easy victim. Standing and walking with good posture, alert and focussed, and hands where they need to be if a problem arises, then moving decisively and with purpose conveys a professional persona. When you speak your words should convey professionalism. You are not dealing with a friend, a bro, or a buddy. You don't know who and what you are dealing with so keeping it professional keeps it neutral. It should be sir or ma'am because that is expected from a person in a position of authority, so you should always communicate professionally and respectfully.

The second major contributing factor to Officer Hernandez being overpowered was the distance he allowed between him and the subject he was approaching. When the subject pulled his knife and lunged toward Officer Hernandez they were so close that Officer Hernandez had no time to react defensively.

It is important to leave as much distance as possible when first approaching someone. Conduct the initial interview from a distance that allows you time to react and defend against an attack. Before you move into position be aware of your environment, escape routes, cover, items that could be used as weapons, hazards, and obstacles you can put in the path of your attacker if needed. Always have a plan and at least one backup plan if things fall apart.

When you question the subject, start with easy questions related to what they are doing and the problem at hand. Try to get them talking. The more they talk, the easier it is to evaluate their state of mind, intentions, and as much other information as you can gather.

The most important thing to remember is to maintain control of the situation and environment. If that falls apart on you then fall back to a safe place, recover, call for backup then re-engage with a more effective position.

Stay alert, and constantly assess your environment and the people in it. Position yourself safely so you have time to react, and if things become unsafe and the threat is beyond your ability to overcome, remove yourself safely and call for backup or support from local law enforcement.

Stay safe.
Go home to your family.

NEWS STORY:
https://www.kob.com/new-mexico/las-cruces-officer-stabbed-to-death-on-duty/

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Training For A Gunfight

Blessed be the Lord my Rock, Who trains my hands for war,
And my fingers for battle
Psalms 144:1 NKJV

I got my first gun when I was just a little boy. It was a .22 caliber, single-shot Cooey rifle, and since Daniel Boone only needed one shot to down whatever he was shooting at, I figured he was a good example to follow. I loved that gun and I practiced until I could sling lead as well as my legendary hero, or so I thought at least. It took time, lots time, but the hours of practice shooting increasingly smaller and smaller targets eventually paid off. And that is when I learned that if you own a firearm, it's important to train with it often.

 

A good friend who currently serves in Law Enforcement invited me and two other police officers to a range that allows those who are qualified, to train in more advanced tactics involving moving and shooting, multiple targets and so on. Training how you fight means that you wear the same gear that you do when you are working so everything feels and performs as it would when you are on the job. Sadly, most ranges don't allow that but this range does making the time training there absolutely invaluable.

The standard protocol for most people when training at the range is to hang a paper target, load up a few magazines with ammo, and fire away hoping most of the rounds hit the target, and preferably close to the center. The problem is that if you have a bad habit, and you put 50 rounds through your gun without correcting it, you just practiced a bad habit 50 more times. You are effectively training yourself to become better at being inaccurate.

 

The better approach is to hang your target, then take your time ensuring your grip is correct, and your stance and sight picture are good. Then most importantly, your trigger pull should be a slow and smooth squeeze and when the gun goes off, it should surprise you. Then hold the trigger down for a split second before you slowly release it until it clicks. That is called the reset and you want to hold your trigger in that position then slowly squeeze the trigger again until it surprises you by going off. If you do this consistently you will be more accurate because the less movement you have with your trigger finger and the smoother that minimal movement is, the less you are moving the barrel of the gun so your shot will be more accurate.

 

I enjoy working with my firearms for recreation, but for work, I need to make sure that I am prepared to win a gunfight in the unfortunate event I am forced into one and that requires mastering advanced skills. Standing static in front of a target is not realistic to what will probably happen in a gunfight. Moving and shooting forward and back then laterally in both directions, changing from strong to support hand, one-handed shooting, shooting from cover and so on is very challenging. If you want to master these skills you need to train in an environment where you can practice them consistently and often.

 

A very important part of training is evaluating your technique but it's impossible to do objectively and completely without either someone watching you that is knowledgable or even better, shooting a video of your training so you can evaluate and correct things you may not even realize you are doing. That's why I like going to the range with other advanced professionals as we can always learn something of value from each other as well as identify things that need to be adjusted to become more efficient and effective.

 

It's not about shooting a good target, it's about perfecting fundamentals, then movements so that everything is smooth, efficient, and fast as well as accurate. Efficient and precise movement means you get effective rounds downrange more quickly. Working for hours to shave mere tenths of a second off the time it takes to draw your weapon and shoot accurately can mean the difference between life and death.

 

It's precision training, fine-tuning, seating good habits, and developing consistently effective results. This is what wins gunfights. So this is what range day looks like.

 

If you own and carry a gun, I strongly urge you to train consistently both on the range with live ammunition, and dry firing at home. These skills are perishable so no matter how much experience you have, practice is necessary to be safe and effective in the unfortunate event you are forced into a gunfight.

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Training To Win A Gunfight
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It was over twenty years ago now when I first started boxing. Initially it was about learning fundamentals, which is a good place to start. I was taught stance and positioning and then we moved to throwing punches. I learned how to throw the jab was first, then the right cross, or what was called one’s and two’s. For two weeks I would show up at the gym and for the next two hours he had me throw one’s and two’s over and over again. I hated every second of it because it was boring and monotonous but I kept showing up each day and did the work.

After two weeks of throwing one’s and two’s for two hours a day my punches were crisp, accurate, smooth, quick, and seemingly effortless. I had literally thrown thousands of punches in that time frame, employing the techniques he had taught me, and I was starting to look like I might know something about boxing. Everything I learned since then was built off of the foundation, and discipline I established in that first two weeks. Twenty years later I still begin every boxing workout with drills focussed on fundamentals. I like to establish my fundamentals first to ensure I am doing everything correctly, then I progress to whatever I choose to train that day.

I approach my firearm training the same way. When I go to the range, I like to start off by establishing solid fundamentals before I move into more advanced training. When I check and then drill my fundamentals I can identify problems and make any corrections if needed. I walk through each element of drawing then firing my weapon checking to make sure my fundamentals are solid. The more repetitions I can do focussing on fundamentals, the more smooth and accurate I will be when shooting under stress or in less than optical conditions.

I also like to practice both tactical and combat reloads as well as malfunctions. I want to be confident that under stress I will be able to smoothly and quickly clear malfunctions, or reload if neccesary. I also spend time training one-handed shooting and shooting one and two handed with my support hand.

These are things very few shooters practice because they are not fun, but if you are in a gunfight there is a high probability that you may need to shoot single handed or with your support hand. You want to be accurate and confident and the only way to do that is to train over and over and over again until you are just as proficient and confident one handed or with your support hand as you are with your regular two-handed grip. 

As an NRA Certified Law Enforcement Firearm Instructor I most commonly see men and women that only train their strengths and their primary goal is to shoot the best score they can with the tightest groups that they can on a static paper target. Training with a grip they never use means less accuracy and can be a blow to the ego. What I do my best to instill in my students is that as an armed  professional our only focus should be learning how to win a gunfight in the event we are ever forced into one. 

In boxing you can look like Mike Tyson when you are working the heavy bag but when the thing you are punching starts punching back, it’s very different. The same can be said for gunfighting. Paper targets don’t shoot back so while they can indicate problems with your fundamentals, a high score while shooting a qualification has little correlation to how you will perform in a gunfight. 

Train your fundamentals tirelessly. Smooth is fast and strong fundamentals make you smoother and more accurate. 

Train the things you are not good at far more than your strengths until you have no weaknesses. Your weaknesses may get you killed or the wrong person killed due to your inability to be accurate and effective. Don’t accept weakness, train it into a strength.

Create your training regimen based on what you need to train most. For example, this is my most recent training day.

Dry firing done at home before I go to the range:
- Draw and dry firing right handed two hand grip - 5 minutes
Draw and dry firing left handed two hand     grip - 10 minutes
- Draw then switching from right to left hand two-hand grip and then back - 10 minutes
- Dry firing one handed left and switch to right then back - 5 minutes
- Tactical reloads - 5 minutes
- Combat reloads - 5 minutes
- Stage One Malfunction clearance (tap, rack, ready) - 5 minutes

Range training to drill fundamentals looks like this:
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Load 4 magazines with 2 or 3 rounds each - change up strong and weak hand practicing combat reloads

- Load 4 magazines with 6 rounds each - change up strong and weak hand practicing tactical reloads
- Load 4 magazines with 6 rounds each - substitute one or two rounds per mag with snap caps to simulate malfunctions - change up strong and weak hand 

When I identify a weakness - problem with accuracy, speed, smoothness, draw etc, then I will repeat that drill until I solve the problem. Once I am confident with my proficiency, I work to increase the speed in which I draw and shoot.



The grouping I shoot on the target then becomes an indicator of my skill level as well as proficiency with strong or support hand, one or two hands, standing, kneeling, shooting around obstacles, and how speed impacts accuracy which translates into how well we adhere to our fundamentals when we add speed to the equation. 


Setting up to shoot your best qualification score with your most common grip with no distractions or challenges other than hitting the target is not an indication of your ability to win a gunfight. Being accurate while facing challenges with grip, challenges with speed, changing mags, simulating malfunctions, creating challenges with obstacles, and so on is more indicative of how you will perform when you face challenges in a gunfight. 

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